It seems like just yesterday we were roasting Luke Sullivan
(digitally) before he ventured off to SCAD. Well, before he made his way to
Georgia, he asked our Director of Digital Strategy Sam Bennett to help
him with his 4th edition of Hey Whipple, Squeeze This. It’s still the ad
book you know and love, but this time Sam helped contribute chapters and
updates on how the digital world has changed advertising. Sam took some time to
give us more insight about the new edition and what it’s like to work with
Luke.
1. When
did you first read Hey Whipple and why?
I was given
the book during my first advertising internship. I was an English
Literature/Professional Writing major in college and simply happened into
advertising, so Hey Whipple was quite literally a crash course in advertising
for me. The other book I was given was The Tipping Point, by Malcom Gladwell.
In retrospect, I realize that kick-starting my knowledge of the business with
such amazing texts on storytelling and culture and behaviors has greatly shaped
my areas of interest, and my career overall.
2. Tell
us about when Luke approached you for the 4th edition.
Actually, I
approached him. It started like this- he was asking me a million digitally
focused questions- and after asking why, and answering several, I realized what
a perfect opportunity this was for both of us. He had an experience and a
skillset I wanted to sharpen, writing and storytelling, and I had something he
needed for this version of the book, a strong understanding of digital and how
it has changed our business. So I simply said “Hey Luke, if you’d like me to
help you edit your next version, or even share some ideas or themes with you,
I’d be glad to. I, you know, majored in writing in college, and fancy myself a
writer…” He then asked me to share some topics I thought worth covering- and
the plan was to do a specific chapter on all things digital. The more we met,
the more I felt compelled to suggest that he actually re-think /re-edit the
book from start to finish. As we all know- the most obvious mistake made these
days is tacking digital on at the end, like an afterthought. I suggested this
and to my surprise he said “I’ll send you my manuscripts. Take a stab at it.
Start to finish.” So what started as an editing project became a really amazing
partnership for this edition of the book.
3.
Who are you hoping will read the latest edition?
Students? CMO’s? Everyone and their mom?
Everyone,
of course. I’ve already got the mom piece covered- she got the first copy. In
seriousness, this book is meaningful to so many audiences. I know tenured
agency folk that are pulling the book out and re-reading it or buying the
latest edition, simply because it’s so timeless. And that might sounds funny to
say, given that I am promoting the latest version, but honestly, that’s the
amazing thing about this book and the reason I’m so thrilled to be a part of
it. So much of Hey Whipple is focused on the art of creativity and
storytelling- and while technology has changed the consumer and the marketplace
(which is hugely covered in the book, read it and see)- the pillars of good
advertising remain the same. So really students, CMOs, art directors,
strategists…anyone that reads it will benefit from both revisiting the
fundamentals, layered with the amazing opportunities that technology and an evolved
consumer have brought us. It’s incredibly relevant- probably more now than
ever.
4. Luke
Sullivan, eh? What was he like to work with?
He’s
everything you would hope for. Seriously. One part brilliant ad man, one part
crazy creative, and the best of all, one part down to earth mentor. The guy is
sort of a legend, and yet, has no ego. He sent me his edits and his manuscripts
like I had asked him to pass me the morning paper. One thing I remember is that
as I was spinning all these great ideas to him- he would say “Ooh, I like that,
let me write that down…” and then would scribble what I felt was a very vague
note, on a piece of notebook paper, haphazardly tear it out of his notebook and
toss it on his messy desk or cluttered floor, to serve as a reminder. Funny and
terrifying all at the same time.
5. Co-authoring
seems like a challenge in matching writing styles – especially Luke’s. How did
you handle?
It’s
definitely difficult, and I let that keep me up at night until I talked to Luke
about it. He said to write. Just write. And together, we would work that out.
So I did, and of course, in some places I see my content, only Luke-ified, but
in places where I see direct lifts, of course I feel victorious!
6. What
were the biggest challenges you faced in integrating digital into the book?
Like I
said- trying to tack digital on didn’t work- so literally going back through
chapter by chapter, line by line, to figure out where it fit without feeling
forced was a challenge. It’s also incredibly difficult to decide which products
or examples to feature. The whole point of digital is that it moves so quickly,
what is true today has changed tomorrow, so I put a lot of pressure on myself
to try to find examples that were strong enough to last (at least until print),
without being the 2-3 cliché ones that everybody and their dog knows.
7. Did
you have a favorite moment/anecdote/chapter working on the book?
Seeing it
in print. J
8. Now
that you have one book under your belt, what’s next for you as Author Sam
Bennett?
It was a
great experience and much like in my advertising career, Hey Whipple is
definitely the start to my writing career. I learned a lot and it really whet
my appetite, so I have a few things that I am focusing and working on, and
hopefully in the next couple years, I’ll have more than one book with “Sam
Bennett” on the cover on my bookshelf.
Love love love! You are amazing!
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